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Old 08-09-2010, 03:15 PM   #1
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Killer Chiller the fix for heat soak!

First off I want to say "Thank You" to:

Thomas with Hendrix-Engineering for supplying the stuff to develop this.

And to Kyle aka silverstreak04 and Josh aka LSPWR for all their wisdom & knowledge, and willing to help many late nights to develop this.

Due to the high interest in developing a Killer Chiller system for the FI GTO's. Thomas has supplied us with the pieces to develop a kit to install on my 2005 GTO. This has been a very time consuming project. But as you all know, developing something for the first time, always is.

Below are a few pics. Many many more to come latter.

I have an Aeroforce gauge with a sensor for water temp inside the maggie reservoir. Last night driving around the neighborhood block a distance of 1 mile, and outside temperature of 86 degrees, with the a/c on and the killer chiller chilling, the maggie water temp was 84 degrees. Three more laps with the a/c OFF and the temps rose to 102 degrees, three more laps with the a/c ON and the temps again dropped to 84 degrees. The radiator is too hot to touch, and the heat exchanger is slightly warm, and the water lines are very cold to the touch (I know... I should have shot them with my new handy dandy laser beam thermometer) I am expecting that when we get out and produce large amounts of boost, the iat's and water temps will climb. Then we kick on the a/c and see how well it controls HIGH temps. For example, last night we cruised around 35 - 40 mph and had 104 degree water temp. If we get out and run it hard, will we see water temp of 135 ? And will the killer chiller cool it down to 84 still? Now that's a significant amount.

Can't wait to see what the temps will be with some "high octane R12A" are gonna be.


Factory front bumper, notched for installation of killer chiller unit








Expansion valve installed near Killer Chiller unit. We have already measured, made and installed most of the a/c lines needed for the kit. The remaining fittings needed are due to arrive late this coming week.


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Old 08-09-2010, 03:15 PM   #2
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So how does this work? It uses the A/C system to cool the incoming air?
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:08 PM   #4
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^^^^ it has a separate tank that passes the maggie coolant through one set of tubes, and the a/c freon through another set of tubes. making the a/c freon to cool the maggie coolant.

I'm hoping to take off a half day Wednesday, were expecting 100 degree temps. Get out and do some data logging of the iat's with the a/c off, then on etc.
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Very nice Tom... When are we going to see numbers?
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:44 AM   #6
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^^^^^ I'm hoping to get out and data log it tomorrow. We are expecting 100 for the high tomorrow
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:02 AM   #7
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Interesting. Make sure to log the temp coming from the A/C as well. I would be interested to see if it adversely affected it was well.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:19 AM   #8
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^^^^ I'm not savy enough with hp tuners, yet! But I will accept some help. LOL
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I was meaning a more manual way with a digital thermometer in the ac vent and oocasionally writing the value down :-)
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^^^^ LOL. Sometimes simple is best!
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Fwiw, during intitial testing, the a/c used on Recirculate was getting air out center vents an average of 55* while the outside air was 86* w/ a relative humidity of it's too damn humid to breath. lol.
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i want i want! lol awesome project
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Old 08-26-2010, 05:07 PM   #13
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they have had these for the ford lightnings for many years now they work great....but some tracks dont like racers to have the a/c on bc of the condesation..
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Had a little set back. The original design was for a t fitting that would be placed between the dryer and the factory hard line (that will thread on) but the fitting didn't fit the drier connection or the hard line. Found out that all the a/c lines and fittings on the car are metric. So we opted to cut the hard line and have been using a compression fitting made by a local hydraulic hose shop. But it leaks. So I found a vendor that makes metric a/c lines, fittings, and such. He is making me a new t with a rubber hose that will be 28" long to replace the first 28" of the hard line and take the connection to above the frame rail on the drivers side just below the air box. We choose here just for ease of getting to the hard line and being able to install the compression fitting that will be used.

Crossing fingers!
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:18 PM   #15
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New line has been made and is shipping today. It will be here Friday. The hard line that goes from the evaporator to the dryer was cut at the dryer to install a "T" that will supply the killer chiller, and the new T now has a 28" rubber a/c line to extend the connection to the original hard line where the line is more accessible (on the drivers frame rail).





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